Two comments on a recent New Statesman demand for Vince Cable to press on with Labours anti-smoking regime.
Smoking Hot
23 October 2010 at 00:22
Read this Mr Cable. l had the honour of taking D-Day veterans back to Normandy this July courtesy of Heroes Return. What follows is a conversation that l was party too. lt is verbatim and the only alterations l shall make is censoring the swearing. Don't judge them by the swearing either, they were in each others company and no ladies or children were present. lf they had been present they would've behaved like the gentlemen they are.
"Later on when l'd taken them to bar and we were sat out in the sun having a beer ... and a smoke, one of the vets said " Y'know, l used to enjoy a pint and a smoke at the pub but it's not worth going anymore. Hardly anyone goes. When l have been and l want a smoke l've got to shuffle out on these f'ing sticks. Doesn't matter if it's pouring with rain, blowing a gale, f'ing snowing ... out l f'ing go"
He went on "What really pi**es me off is all them f'ing anti-smoking c**ts. They say it's better for me, it's healthier, it's for my own good ... l'm 85 for ffs!"
His mate replied " Makes you wonder why we bothered, f'ing fascists won in the end"
Images of England
H/T Calling England
Joan
23 October 2010 at 01:30
Oh dear all tobacco products & smokers have to be hidden from sight because poor Lorna wants to quit.
I do despair at times at the mentality of some people, I really do.
ASH are solely resposnible for this: I imagine Glanzt, & his toe curling lawyer friend Banz, Arnott et al are slapping each other on the back for a job well done.
88-year-old woman told to butt out - or be evicted
CALGARY—Friends and family of an 88-year-old
Calgary woman say the lifelong smoker is "ashamed and embarrassed" after she was told to find another place to live because her residence has gone smoke-free.
Philipina Schergevitch, who has smoked for 73 years, has been living at the Francis Klein Centre for a decade.
The centre is run by the Bishop O'Byrne Housing for Seniors Association, which banned smoking in July.
Schergevitch's daughter, Liz Daniels, said her mother is devastated over the news she has to find a new home by the end of this month as her lease isn't being renewed.
Daniels said her mother is so stressed out, she hasn't yet told her she'll be forced to move.
"Who expects to be evicted at age 88?" Daniels asked.
The association provides affordable housing for people who are functionally independent.
Daniels said her mother has been smoking since she was 15 and has tried to quit, but at age 88, it's hard. She's been smoking in her suite since she moved there in 2000.
"I understand no one likes smoking, but are these people lepers?" said Daniels. "It's not fair. These people have contributed all their lives and now they're treated like this."
http://www.vancouversun.com/health/year+woman+told+butt+evicted/3696774/story.html
Three cheers for ASH & Co.
Housing No Juden
Employment No Juden
Parks/beaches No Juden
No medical treatment No Juden
Bar/clubs/cafes No Juden
Carriers of disease Juden
Dirty/Smelly/Vile Juden
Shunned by society Juden
Medical experiments Juden
With enforced NRT for the mentally ill and the American woman that is promoting paying drug addicts to be sterlised I think we've been taken back 70 years.
All those mentioned above were practiced by a regime that used the propaganda 'it's for the children' whose scientists/doctors selected who was healthy & who wasn't, who was fit to live in their utopia and who wasn't.
It was called eugenics, and I fear that's where we're heading now, dressed up as 'public health.'
Like then the propagandists, scientists/doctors convinced otherwise normal, decent people to shun and hate those that were singled out.
I know it's said you've lost the argument when you mention WW2 but there's too many similarities to what's going on with smokers to dismiss it. Just replace Juden with smokers and any right minded person can see it. And high on its heels, once again courtesy of a 2 year blueprint of the WHO, drinkers next. And courtesy of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation the overweight are also in for a good denormalising bashing.
The WHO has turned into a monstrous organisation whose remit when created was to minister medicines to third world countries. Who gave them permission to branch out into dictating what people can and can't do. I think this taxpayer funded entity, along with the UN and EU should be abolished before the damage it does to populations around the world gets totally out of hand.
To be truthful I'm more fearful of the WHO, UN, EU and our own government more than I am of terrorists, I believe we have more to fear from these and the so-called caring profession, I refer to them as the medical mafia. n reality ASH and the relent rise of anti-smoking clinics & groups that have sprung up in the last 3 years, basically are just puppets of the real master the WHO.
The damage these organisations and their puppets have done is tragic, they've turned otherwise, decent, normal people, through propagandised fear, into hatemongers.
Shame on them all, though I suspect they revel in the comparison I've laid out above."
H/T Dick Puddlecote
7 comments:
I quit three years ago, so I feel your pain. They just hate seeing people enjoying themselves. What about the poor pub owners going broke. Like we say over here (but unsuccessful), It should be the Pub owners choice. If you don't like the smoke, you're free to go elsewhere.
I don't smoke, never have done, but it makes me weep, to see liberty swept aside so brutally, and so casually, with most of the population of the UK ignorant of the wider ramifications.
Banned, thank you for replaying the video and linking. It does my heart good to hear & see it again.
We do have something worth fighting for. I always despair at comments saying 'we're doomed'; 'England's lost'. No, England isn't lost - not yet.
"We are the people of England, and we have not spoken yet."
@Woodsie "What about the poor pub owners going broke??" Pub owners going broke is all part of the plan since alcohol is next on the list.
@Cowboy, an opinion sharedby the majority of non-smokers that I have encountered.
Godnight Vienna
"We are the people of England, and we have not spoken yet."
Clearly it is time that we did.
The Secret People
by Gilbert Keith Chesterton
Smile at us, pay us, pass us; but do not quite forget;
For we are the people of England, that never have spoken yet.
There is many a fat farmer that drinks less cheerfully,
There is many a free French peasant who is richer and sadder than we.
There are no folk in the whole world so helpless or so wise.
There is hunger in our bellies, there is laughter in our eyes;
You laugh at us and love us, both mugs and eyes are wet:
Only you do not know us. For we have not spoken yet.
The fine French kings came over in a flutter of flags and dames.
We liked their smiles and battles, but we never could say their names.
The blood ran red to Bosworth and the high French lords went down;
There was naught but a naked people under a naked crown.
And the eyes of the King's Servants turned terribly every way,
And the gold of the King's Servants rose higher every day.
They burnt the homes of the shaven men, that had been quaint and kind,
Till there was no bed in a monk's house, nor food that man could find.
The inns of God where no man paid, that were the wall of the weak.
The King's Servants ate them all. And still we did not speak.
And the face of the King's Servants grew greater than the King:
He tricked them, and they trapped him, and stood round him in a ring.
The new grave lords closed round him, that had eaten the abbey's fruits,
And the men of the new religion, with their bibles in their boots,
We saw their shoulders moving, to menace or discuss,
And some were pure and some were vile; but none took heed of us.
We saw the King as they killed him, and his face was proud and pale;
And a few men talked of freedom, while England talked of ale.
A war that we understood not came over the world and woke
Americans, Frenchmen, Irish; but we knew not the things they spoke.
They talked about rights and nature and peace and the people's reign:
And the squires, our masters, bade us fight; and scorned us never again.
Weak if we be for ever, could none condemn us then;
Men called us serfs and drudges; men knew that we were men.
In foam and flame at Trafalgar, on Albuera plains,
We did and died like lions, to keep ourselves in chains,
We lay in living ruins; firing and fearing not
The strange fierce face of the Frenchmen who knew for what they fought,
And the man who seemed to be more than a man we strained against and broke;
And we broke our own rights with him. And still we never spoke.
Our patch of glory ended; we never heard guns again.
But the squire seemed struck in the saddle; he was foolish, as if in pain,
He leaned on a staggering lawyer, he clutched a cringing Jew,
He was stricken; it may be, after all, he was stricken at Waterloo.
Or perhaps the shades of the shaven men, whose spoil is in his house,
Come back in shining shapes at last to spoil his last carouse:
We only know the last sad squires rode slowly towards the sea,
And a new people takes the land: and still it is not we.
They have given us into the hand of new unhappy lords,
Lords without anger or honour, who dare not carry their swords.
They fight by shuffling papers; they have bright dead alien eyes;
They look at our labour and laughter as a tired man looks at flies.
And the load of their loveless pity is worse than the ancient wrongs,
Their doors are shut in the evening; and they know no songs.
We hear men speaking for us of new laws strong and sweet,
Yet is there no man speaketh as we speak in the street.
It may be we shall rise the last as Frenchmen rose the first,
Our wrath come after Russia's wrath and our wrath be the worst.
It may be we are meant to mark with our riot and our rest
God's scorn for all men governing. It may be beer is best.
But we are the people of England; and we have not spoken yet.
Smile at us, pay us, pass us. But do not quite forget.
Just a line to say that I am fully in agreement with the sentiments expressed in this piece. I lived a long time in England, but no longer: my country no longer exists - and I fear that many in Western
Europe feel the same about their countries; Big Government is to blame; once these bastards get power they will never yield: not one inch.
I hvae been ranting for three years on this (amongst other subjects) on my blog Styx on which I have included a mention of Banned and a link.
Thank you Paul.
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